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02 September 2010 By Kourosh Ziabari Adnan
Oktar, internationally known by his pen name Harun
Yahya, is a Turkish public intellectual, writer and
speaker. He is a proponent of Islamic creationism and
anti-Zionism. He condemns Zionism and denounces
Darwinism as the source of terrorism. He runs the
Turkey-based Science Research Foundation and
Foundation to Protect National Values. He has written
numerous best-selling books including "The Atlas of
Creation", "The Muslim Way of Speaking", "Allah's
Miracles in the Quran" and "The Errors the American
National Academy of Sciences". Yahya's books have been
translated in more than 20 languages. He has
been interviewed by several international media
outlets, newspapers, TV channels and online magazines
including Catholic Radio International, Russia's
Pravda, Qatar's Aljazeera, Tehran Times, Saudi
Arabia's Arab News and Swedish National Radio.
Here is
the complete text of interview with Mr. Yahya in which
the latest developments of the Middle East, Israel's
war threats against Iran, the prospect of Iran-Turkey
relations and the ordeal of Palestinian nation under
the Israeli oppression have been discussed.
Dear Mr. Yahya; is the Israeli regime, in your view,
militarily capable of launching an attack against
Iran? What would be the consequences of striking Iran
for Israel? We are
now living in the End Times, in the age of Hazrat
Mahdi (AS). Our Prophet (PBUH) has told us about all
the events that will take place during this time in
great detail. There will be no great war after this
time. The movement of the Dajjal wants bloodshed in
the Middle East, but, by Allah's leave, we will not
permit it. There can be no question of Israel
attacking Iran, or Iran attacking Israel. Any attack
against innocent people with no true justification is
unlawful according to the Torah. Every Jew who obeys
the rulings of the Torah is also obliged to abide by
Allah's commandment, “Thou shall not murder.” No
matter how much certain circles in Israel favor
conflict, bloodshed and disorder and no matter how
these circles sometimes prevail, it is obvious that
the great majority of Israel will not accept a
physical attack on such a large and powerful country
as Iran. We know
what the real aim is of those who want to set Jews and
Muslims against one another, and we have exposed their
sinister tricks. So neither Iran nor Israel will fall
for them. It is therefore essential for Jews and
Muslims who genuinely believe in Allah, who love the
Prophets, who believe in the Books He sent down and
who know that the Hereafter exists to form an alliance
against irreligion, Darwinism, atheism and
materialism. Atheists and Darwinists easily ally
themselves around their own beliefs and try to crush
believers, whatever their faith, with all their might.
It is extraordinary how people who love Allah and want
the moral values commanded by Him to prevail are
unable to form an alliance while the alliance between
Darwinists and materialists seeks to drown the world
in blood. When true believers are allied they will
obviously totally neutralize those who want war. It is
therefore essential that our devout Iranian and
Israeli brothers should treat one another with
affection, love and understanding and wage a great
intellectual struggle against irreligion, materialism
and Darwinism using knowledge, science and culture.
When that happens, nobody will be able to speak of
war, assault, fighting or conflict.
In the case of an Israeli attack against Iran, what
would be the reaction of the Islamic world? In
particular, what is your estimation of Turkey's
possible response in case of an Israeli attack against
Iran? I do not
believe Israel will choose to do such a thing. True,
devout Jews in Israel will not permit such an attack
either. Turkey's policy has always been to support
justice, the rightful and the innocent. But there is
an important phenomenon to be noted here. Dajjal is
trying to set Muslims and Jews, who are actually
brothers and who are all descended from the Prophet
Abraham (AS), against one another. It aims for the
destruction of both Jews and Muslims. It is very
important to expose the movement of the Dajjal and
neutralize it, insha'Allah.
Why doesn't the international community take
effective, practical steps to stop the unlawful
actions of Israel such as the collective punishment of
the Palestinian people, building illegal settlements
on Palestinian lands and destroying the Palestinian
constructions, mosques, schools and homes? The only
way for the suffering of our Palestinian brothers to
come to an end is for the Islamic world to be united
and act as one. So long as Muslims are not united
around a spiritual leader, neither Palestine, nor
Iraq, nor East Turkistan nor Afghanistan can be freed.
Sanctions by international bodies, punishments and the
like will change nothing. You have seen that over the
years. Many decisions have been taken against Israeli
actions, and what have they changed? There is terrible
oppression going on under the influence of a handful
of atheist Zionists in Israel, not only of our
Palestinian brothers, but of devout Christians and
Jews, as well. There is only one thing for those who
want that oppression to end to do, and that is to
mobilize all their resources for the establishment of
Turkish-Islamic Union. When the Islamic world of 1.5
billion people is united, no harm will befall a hair
on the head of a single Muslim anywhere in the world,
insha'Allah. But
Turkish-Islamic Union will mean salvation for all
mankind, not just Muslims, because it will be the
system in which the moral values of the Quran are
fully applied. It will be a union based on love,
affection, beauty, art, science and democracy, and
Jews, Christians, Buddhists and atheists will all be
treated as first-class human beings under its roof.
Everyone will be free to speak his mind and perform
his religious obligations. In the same way that love
and justice governed in the time of our Prophet (PBUH),
and in the same way the People of the Book lived at
ease and Muslims enjoyed well-being and security, so
it will be again when Turkish-Islamic Union is
established, insha'Allah.
Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has
recently called for an international action to bring
to an end the lawlessness of the Zionist regime. What
efforts should an international movement include in
order to hold Tel Aviv accountable for the crimes its
commits? I have
set this out many times before. Telling someone who
has made oppressing others his life's work "have pity
on us, and please stop" will have no effect at all,
and may even encourage him still further. Our Muslim
brothers are following a wrong path here. They say the
international community should take action, but would
not a comprehensive solution that does not require
action from the international community be better?
Instead of asking Israel not to engage in unlawful
actions, would it not be better to build an
environment in which Israel would never dare do such
things? Just imagine, if the Islamic world of 1.5
billion people were coalesced around a spiritual
leader, if they were to act as a military, cultural
and economic giant, would Israel or any other country
dare to adopt such policies? It would never even cross
their minds or enter their heads. They would display
huge respect for our Palestinian brothers and devout
Jews and Christians. There would be nothing for the
international community to intervene over. It will be
possible to neutralize those who seek bloodshed,
ruthlessness, murder and oppression with the founding
of Turkish-Islamic Union under the spiritual
leadership of Hazrat Mahdi (AS). Of course, Hazrat
Mahdi (AS) will neutralize them with love, affection,
culture, art and science. He will save them from their
errors. He will protect them, too. He will lead them
to the true path, too, insha'Allah.
What roles can Turkey play in order to isolate the
Zionist regime politically, culturally and
economically? How can Turkey assume leadership in an
international movement against the illegalities of the
Israeli regime?
Isolating Israel and forcing it into solitude is no
solution. It is not compatible with the Quran and the
Sunnah either. We are looking at an unjust practice
and mistaken policy on the part of a few Godless,
irreligious, atheist Zionists who do not abide by the
Torah. But there are also many devout Jews and
Christians. There are many innocent women, children
and elderly people. It is incompatible with good
conscience to force all these people into isolation
and condemn them to conditions in which they cannot
survive. We will be their savior and protector too,
insha'Allah. The People of the Book are entrusted to
us by the Prophets Moses (AS) and Jesus (AS). We will
ensure they live in the best manner. We will shelter
them in the finest way, the same way that the Prophet
Muhammad (PBUH) treated them with justice and
affection and that Hazrat Omar (RA) watched over and
protected them. We do not want Israel to be destroyed,
wiped off the map, impoverished or to have its
resources limited. We just want an end to atheist
Zionist oppression. That will be possible through an
intellectual struggle against irreligion, atheism,
materialism and Darwinism.
How do you estimate the growing relations between the
two brother nations of Iran and Turkey? How can these
two countries shape a powerful coalition against the
bullying superpowers and their colonies such as
Israel? Iran is
Turkey's long-time friend. We love our Iranian
brothers as we do ourselves and will never permit them
to face difficulties or problems. We will protect and
watch over them as we do ourselves. For Iran and
Turkey to be allied in love, affection and peace would
be to the benefit of the entire region. For two great
and powerful countries to act together to establish
the well-being, peace and security of mankind will be
a huge blow to the movement of the dajjal. A just,
compassionate and loving alliance that excludes none,
and supports right instead of might, will bring great
ease and comfort, not just to Islamic countries, but
to all the nations in the region and people of all
beliefs. I want to tell my brothers once again that I
love and value my Iranian brothers very highly. We are
in the age of Hazrat Mahdi (as). Hazrat Mahdi (as) is
a blessed individual descended from our Prophet (PBUH)
and started work, as the Prophet (PBUH) says, in the
Hijri 1400s. Hazrat Mahdi (as) is at work now. We will
also see the Prophet 'Isa (as) in the next 10 to 20
years, insha'Allah. I say these things on the basis of
the sayings of our Prophet (PBUH). All the portents of
the End Times foretold by our Prophet (PBUH) have come
about. We will soon see other glad tidings, the global
dominion of the moral values of Islam, insha'Allah. It
is therefore very important, in such a climate, to
keep to the path shown by our Prophet (PBUH). It is
most important to seek Hazrat Mahdi (as), strive to be
his supporter, forerunner and follower, to wage a
cultural struggle against irreligion and Darwinism in
order to support his struggle, to strive to improve
love and friendship among Muslims and to strive to
sincerely live by Quranic moral values. Allah's
promise is a true one, and Allah will never break His
promise. By His leave, we will all witness the promise
of the global dominion of Islamic moral values come
true in the next 10 to 20 years, insha'Allah.
- Kourosh Ziabari is an
Iranian freelance journalist. He has interviewed
political commentator and linguist Noam Chomsky,
member of New Zealand parliament Keith Locke,
Australian politician Ian Cohen, member of German
Parliament Ruprecht Polenz, former Mexican President
Vicente Fox, former U.S. National Security Council
advisor Peter D. Feaver, Nobel Prize laureate in
Physics Wolfgang Ketterle, Nobel Prize laureate in
Chemistry Kurt Wüthrich, Nobel Prize laureate in
biology Robin Warren, famous German political prisoner
Ernst Zündel, Brazilian cartoonist Carlos Latuff,
American author Stephen Kinzer, syndicated journalist
Eric Margolis, former assistant of the U.S. Department
of the Treasury Paul Craig Roberts,
American-Palestinian journalist Ramzy Baroud, former
President of the American Motion Picture Arts and
Sciences Sid Ganis, American international relations
scholar Stephen Zunes, American singer and songwriter
David Rovics, American political scientist and
anthropologist William Beeman, British journalist Andy
Worthington, Australian author and blogger Antony
Loewenstein, Iranian geopolitics expert Pirouz
Mojtahedzadeh, American historian and author Michael
A. Hoffman II and Israeli musician Gilad Atzmon. |